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I have a k plate 214si that I think needs new front disc`s how easy are these to replace myself and what`s involved ?
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Rover dave wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:57 pm I have a k plate 214si that I think needs new front disc`s how easy are these to replace myself and what`s involved ?
You'll have to jack the car and put an axle stand under the front sill edge. Remove the front callipers and carriers - both are on bolts, so sockets are involved but at least you should be able to get them to move, depending on age and amount of rust. Don't think you can get away with not disconnecting the flexible brake pipe (Banjo bolt into the calliper), though I expect some people just let them dangle :scared Don't lose the copper washer on the banjo bolt. Then you've got the problem of those pesky M6 countersunk screws (that have probably gone rusty) holding the discs to the hubs. Usually only two per disk but I hate them. Slide on the new discs and then reverse all the steps you've done to get to this point. Then you'll have to bleed the braking system once the callipers are back on and connected up (bleed screw on the back of the calliper).
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Rover's WSM is happy with tying the loose calipers up out of the way with a piece of wire.
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You don't need to disconnect the brake hoses - you can tie the caliper to the coil spring to keep it out of the way
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richard moss wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:48 pm You don't need to disconnect the brake hoses - you can tie the caliper to the coil spring to keep it out of the way
This-no need to disconnect the brake hoses.
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They're relatively straight forward compared to a 600! :D

You don't say whether you've done a brake service before? :S

You need an impact hammer to shift the countersunk screws holding the disk on!

I would clamp the flexible hose, either with a purpose made clamp [ebay] or use a Mole Wrench with a piece of rag wrapped around the hose.

Always replace disks and brake pads as a set and service the calipers at the same time; I would replace the piston bore seal and dust boot at the same time.

Make sure that the requisite pad shims etc are still there, some times they're missing! Look on Rimmers website for an exploded drawing of all the parts.
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Copper grease the Calliper Slider Pins & make sure the dust covers on them is located correctly so it does its job. Best practice and you will pat yourself on the back the next time you have to do them.

These are a complete bstd if stiff of seized, not to mention the possible damage and danger that may happen !
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I just hang the calipers off the suspension springs using a length of 4mm bonsai wire - great stuff to have in your toolkit. You won't necessarily need an impact driver but there's a fair chance you will. I've never had any problem getting the caliper bolts undone even very old ones - just use the right kit. You should really torque the bolts back up again when refitting but I know a lot of people don't bother with a torque wrench. You'll need to push the pistons back in using a G clamp (or valve spring compressor) - keep an eye on the brake fluid level when you do this, as you don't want it overflowing onto the paintwork. Make sure the flats on the carrier fitting are rotated to the right position when refitting. Don't forget to pump the brakes before you go anywhere!
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Kriss707 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:51 pm Copper grease the Calliper Slider Pins & make sure the dust covers on them is located correctly so it does its job. Best practice and you will pat yourself on the back the next time you have to do them.

These are a complete bstd if stiff of seized, not to mention the possible damage and danger that may happen !
Copper grease isn’t the best thing to use on the slider pins, as it can attack rubber and also dries out & goes sticky. Best stuff is the proper ceramic brake grease available from most motor factors-works well on the pad backings and carriers too.
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Johnny 216GSi wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:43 pm
Rover dave wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:57 pm I have a k plate 214si that I think needs new front disc`s how easy are these to replace myself and what`s involved ?
Slide on the new discs and then reverse all the steps you've done to get to this point.
Making sure that before you fit the discs, you ensure that you have cleaned off the surface of the hub, all rust, dirt and anything else, as even the tiniest speck of dirt can give terrible brake judder as the disc is not running true. Any slight deviation on the hub, will be magnified by the time it gets out to the braking surfaces.
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